Debates over meta-search and the online world.

I know there are many people in the recruiting world who feel that meta-search is okay and is an acceptable usage of the internet. The debate has been going on for years- I have even included two links below regarding conversations about it in 2000 and 2003.

2000 – Internet World

2003 – Gigalaw.com

2005- Scroogle.com

Here is a favorite of mine that goes to the exact point of whether or not the whole thing needs to be thrown into court. Scroogle.com has been operating a Google search aggregator for a few years now, asking that they be taken to court. Why? In essence they want Google to shut itself down. If Google takes Scroogle to court they would effectively be leveraging Google’s own lawyers to define what Google and many other search engines are currently doing online. Currently the search industry is operating in a huge gray area of the law and is unwilling to define it’s own legal boundaries that would severely impact the advertising media model they operate under. The courts have been lenient in the guise of the term “search”, but the damage to advertising media models for pre-existing businesses is slowly, yet strongly being infringed upon.

As search sites become more targeted to specific industries such as Workzoo, jobs.Just-Posted and Simplyhired are with recruiting, the impact these vertical search engines have on the original content holder will become more severe.

Now most web browsers don’t really read the fine print. It has been a long time since most of us had read the fine print of any site we visited, however I love to read the fine print sometimes. Craigslist and Monster have both clearly identified that while scraping may be accepted amongst the online community, that it is clearly against the terms of service on both sites.

http://www.craigslist.com/about/terms.of.use.html

8. Access to the Service

craigslist grants you a limited, revocable, nonexclusive license to access the Service for your own personal use of the Service, and not to download (other than page caching) or modify it, or any portion of it, or any Content made available via the Service (except for your own Content), without the express written consent of craigslist. This license does not include any collection, aggregation, copying, duplication, display or derivative use of the Service nor any use of data mining, robots, spiders, or similar data gathering and extraction tools for any purpose unless expressly permitted by craigslist. A limited exception is provided to general purpose internet search engines and non-commercial public archives that use such tools to gather information for the sole purpose of displaying hyperlinks to the Service, provided they each do so from a stable IP address or range of IP addresses using an easily identifiable agent and comply with our robots.txt file. “General purpose internet search engine” does not include a website or search engine or other service that specializes in classified listings or in any subset of classifieds listings such as jobs, housing, for sale, services, or personals, or which is in the business of providing classified ad listing services.

craigslist permits you to display on your website, or create a hyperlink on your website to, individual postings on the Service so long as such use is for noncommercial and/or news reporting purposes only (e.g., for use in personal web blogs or personal online media). If the total number of such postings displayed or linked to on your website exceeds one hundred (100) postings, your use will be presumed to be in violation of these Terms, absent express permission granted by craigslist to do so. You may also create a hyperlink to the home page of craigslist sites so long as the link does not portray craigslist, its employees, or its affiliates in a false, misleading, derogatory, or otherwise offensive matter.

Monster.com

http://about.monster.com/terms/

4. Specific Prohibited Uses.

(l) attempt to decipher, decompile, disassemble or reverse engineer any of the software comprising or in any way making up a part of any Monster Site; (m) aggregate, copy or duplicate in any manner any of the Monster Content or information available from any Monster Site; or (n) frame or link to any of Monster Content or information available from any Monster Site.

Perhaps Monster.com is a monolithic corporate entity, but back in 2004 Craigslist was an enterprise operated by a paid staff of 14 (I’m sure a few heads have come on since then). I am usually very supportive of the small businesses of the world and I find it discouraging that larger companies scrape content from them.

At what point do we, the recruiting community (and the general public) ask ourselves if it is okay to walk on top of the little guy? Having been a writer and a graphic designer myself, parsing my site for information without my permission is very violating if not damaging to my efforts to create and nuture a product that I control.

I’ve heard arguements saying “but site X does it”, but I haven’t seen any real proof that site X is performing ethically either. As a designer, I’ve paid for content from both visual artists and copywriters before… so exactly how does “search” make intellectual property theft more excusable?

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I recently had several discussions about key reasons that certain referral models fail to work. It isn’t very much about the actual system, but failure to educate the users of the system. When Monster.com took the online world by storm I was working on a government account that fought tooth and nail to hold onto recruiting standards from twenty years ago. The recruiting world in general had been stagnant so long that there were strongly entrenched believers in the “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it” mind set.

The idealogy hasn’t changed. Rather than being focused on faxing resumes or getting them in the mail like five years ago, many recruiters are trying to figure out how to maximize the tools given to them online through the job boards. When they first came out, they worked wonderfully, then job and resume SPAM slowly but surely drowned out the effectiveness of the system and some sites compounded the problem by focusing on generating revenue through advertisement sales that were not strongly related to the recruitment process.

So here we are, we have a new form of mail (e-mail), a new form of classified (job boards), and a new way of filing resumes (our databases). The big problem however, is a human one.

We want human interaction.

Having spent the past year focusiong on blog technology and social networking online, my marketing skills and online design services quickly began seeing the effectiveness of human interaction in a recruitment world. In fact most of the strongest models of marketing (not just recruiting) are built on human interaction elements.

Word of mouth and recommendations from friends.

A trusting hand shake.

A pleasant voice on the phone.

A smile from the customer service representative.

Now that I’ve played with over a dozen online referral systems (some job related, some business related, and some sales related)…. the element isn’t the technology- it’s the people behind it.

A very large hinderance to the current referral systems out there is usage and acceptance. Overcoming the recruiter’s and applicant’s fear of technology and a new process is a huge undertaking. The government account I mentioned previously was scared to death of new processes. Most professionals in any industry are scared to leap from a sinking ship as it is the only ship they have every known.

One by one recruiters had to be “converted” and brought into the light. It took a combination of sales and marketing, personal commitment to associates taking a chance with a new system, and the ability to believe in what you were selling.

The funny part of this dilemna is that it’s a horrible circle caused by the very technology everyone loves online. The past ten years recruiters have been heavilly encourage to categorize, filter, sort, and control candidate pools by using various online tools. In a way, many of the recruiters and hiring managers who didn’t have a strong grasp of what was happening fell head over heels into the online swamp of resumes. They became disconnected from the very people they were trying to connect with.

Today the online world is shifting-

From mass comunication, reaching more people to personal communication, reaching people more

Recruiters are going through the whole curve again, but this time it’s back towards the direction some of them started from. I’m going to use my personal experience with some of the job referral systems and highlight some of the experience. It relates to the referral system from the candidate side, but has issue regarding how the systems are being used.

This specific issue happened five times through three different online job referral systems. I’ll leave out which ones were used as this appears to be an inherent problem across the board as far as I can tell.

I received a referral about a job-

1- that pertained to my skillset

2- that pertained to my career level

3- that met my salary level

4- was interesting enough to look into

5- came from a trusted associate or personal friend

In all but one of the seven cases I applied and heard nothing until I investigated further. In several instances the recruiter was buried under paperwork, they had not taken the time to examine the responses from the referral, or they were unreachable.

In those cases a perfectly good referral system gave a fair candidate to the recruiter yet due to the human element the process fell apart. In all cases damage to the social network was risked as my associate placed themselves on the line by offering to refer and/or recommend me to the job/company. The technical aspect of the system worked, but the usage of the system by the recruiter was not fully understood or they failed to commit themselves to the entire process.

When a personal referral is made- it is a “human to human” interaction, based on a human relation with the referral. One of the big drawbacks to the job boards is that it has shifted the tendancy of online recruiting to become a “human to database” interaction.

A successful and well trained recruiter will take a personal referral and intergrate any candidate into the recruiting strategy by either a) referring me to a recruiter within the company who could use my skills or b) by advising me what they are looking for and sourcing my own personal network or c) advising me that my skills do not fit the role and that I am not a fit for any foreseeable openings. As any professional recruiter knows, many good people know other good people. It is also a requirement of recruiting through referrals to interview candidates making sure they don’t fit your needs.

Recruiters using a referral based system should be aware that the system has more in common with the typical headhunter tactic where all candidates need a human element rather than being left in a database. Treating a referral system like a job board database results in social networks being used for negative outcomes and no professional I’m aware of likes to have a professional contact placed at risk over a referral that may or may not turn out.

On a similar note- I had some interest in some of the positions over at Microsoft and Heather Hamilton responded in person and did exactly what she said she would do to follow up. Within a week I had spoke to two different recruiters in the Microsoft group, one that had some potential and one that did not. In both cases however, I would feel good referring any of my friends to Heather’s group knowing they will be followed up with in a professional manner. Kudos to Heather and Microsoft for having a good recruiting team.

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Well I’ve stepped up to the plate to develop www.SeattleMojo.com in conjunction with MetroMojo.com. They have great set of community sites that have developed over the past 18 months in the central region and this will be the first west coast city to launch.

Right now editorial content is low for SeattleMojo, but that will be corrected soon enough. There are some interesting options we’ll be implementing on this site, so it will be a proving ground for some of our revolutionary ideas regarding online community. Right now we have a feature set that is very similar to Myspace.com, but our model will be focused around the local community and have a real world aspect to it as well.

Well I’ve stepped up to the plate to develop www.SeattleMojo.com in conjunction with MetroMojo.com. They have great set of community sites that have developed over the past 18 months in the central region and this will be the first west coast city to launch.

Right now editorial content is low for SeattleMojo, but that will be corrected soon enough. There are some interesting options we’ll be implementing on this site, so it will be a proving ground for some of our revolutionary ideas regarding online community. Right now we have a feature set that is very similar to Myspace.com, but our model will be focused around the local community and have a real world aspect to it as well.

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Where do we go from here?

I just read some updated information on Virtual Earth by Microsoft and had to sit down and think about how it could affect the way technology influences our lives. This particular technology personally interests me on a variety of aspects. Other sites such as Yahoo.maps and Google Maps have brought mapping services together- however Virtual Earth may be a step into the sci-fi realm as things begin to converge. As physical locations become searchable items online the way we interact with the world will become very different.

Some not too distant possibilities-

-Imagine walking downtown and the cookie based tracking system in your cell phone database realizes you haven’t visited a coffee shop for your morning coffee. As you walk by it reminds you by name and communicates with the coffee shop server. You click “yep, I need my morning coffee” and by the time you park your car and get to the counter the barista has your morning favorite ready to go and your account has already been charged.

-Imagine walking up to a street corner and realizing you have an hour to spend before a meeting and you simply query your PDA what local spots of interests fit your user profile. It could recommend a walk in the local park depending on the weather or visiting the local tavern for a special brew you love.

-Imagine being able to sit down at a scenic viewpoint and query your portable computer about “people who have visited here” and having the ability to browse through public profiles of people who may have similar interests.

-Walking into a popular technology store and having the store database let you know that they are looking to fill a job that matches the requirements you put in your online resume last week.

There are so many forms of data that could be combined with some basic variants of the technology we already have (cell phones, PDAs, Wifi Laptops, Bluetooth enabled cars) that we could quickly see a revolutionized way of communicating.

Virtual Earth vs. Google Earth – SearchEngineWatch.com

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This technology is going down an interesting path- The ability to data from person to person using electromagnetic modems through touch. As this technology improves I imagine it will be extended to several yards as our bodies actually create an electromagnetic field that extends to about 15 feet.


The implications to society and how we interact are amazing. Transferring data, sharing business card information by simply shaking hands, and knowing who you saw and being able to log it each day in your computer to name a few short possibilities.

From a product standpoint however, Bluetooth has already enabled us to create miniature devices capable of relaying information to individuals… so the true viability of this technology comes from whether or not it will provide new ways of interaction (why limit transmission to touch, when I can do it at fifteen feet via Bluetooth?)
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